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Tragically Right
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posted 03-06-2001 06:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tragically Right     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's been a year and 3 months the hemorhoid has yet to sign any kind of agreement. He's got a new victim (girlfriend) and I find that I'm relieved. No more guilt trips and hopefully incentive for divorce.

Then there's me. What future could an old (1yr shy of OverTheHill), twice married, overweight, insecure mom have? I have resigned myself to growing up, finally. You know, finding myself. Funny, I didn't even know I was lost.

I just spent 8 years allowing this man to drain me of any inspiration. I feel as though a 170 lb leech has been plucked from my hindparts.

ellybelly
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posted 03-07-2001 05:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ellybelly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, it's amazing how easy it is to get lost in all of that crap, isn't it? Speaking as an insecure old mom myself (with a tendency toward overweight).

I was just writing to a friend, a new father, who made the comment to me recently that he felt his days of being "the arrow" were over -- that now he was "the bow" from which his children would fly. He said, "we are arrows in our youth, that time is finished," and it made me very sad to hear him say so.


So I've just spent an hour or so trying to craft a letter to him (rather unsuccessfully) to say, The day you give up being the arrow is the day you begin to die. Don't do it.

I think it's particularly tough for women -- for mothers especially -- to remember that we are more than our form and our function in this world. But we are. Keeping track of that fact is the better part of sanity, TR.

And the truth is, you are never really lost. You're just buried deep beneath other people's ridiculous ideas and expectatinos about you.

cristal
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posted 03-07-2001 08:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cristal     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yeah, what she said.

...and a really good exercise regimen can do wonders. It keeps you young. Keeps you turned on. Your face starts looking all pink and young. You'll have more energy than you know what to do with.

Take it from an old twice-married, once-overweight woman who's right behind you, forging up that same hill, only pushing a wheelbarrow filled dirt to pile on top, to make that stupid hill a really, really tall mountain.

ellybelly
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posted 03-07-2001 10:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ellybelly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yes and exactly what are we supposed to do with all that energy we now have but don't know what to do with, clean the refrigerator???

SOME of us don't have in-house booty around....you lucky charm you...

GREEEEEEEN marshmellows, and I like 'em TOOOOO

justnotme
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posted 03-07-2001 11:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for justnotme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh God....another one. This is what got me to this site in the first place.....feeling bitter and lonely and insecure. In your brain you know you have to do the whole "love yourself" thing. Everybody tried to tell me and it didn't happen fast enough and I'm still evolving....but it's true. Don't think about the future, don't live in the past - live for you for now - the future starts looking brighter by itself.

I'm not a mother, and so far it's only been once divorced (I plan on keeping that track record). EVERYONE is insecure about something - I don't care who you are! You can change the physical stuff - just make sure you're doing it for YOU - not just to bag YOUR next victim. The head stuff is the worst. Go to the library or book store and get every sappy self help book that grabs you and read them. Vow to yourself that you'll never sweep what you want under the rug for anyone ever again. Think about the time before the 170lb growth (go back further if you have to) and do all the stuff you've been surpressing or find out what it is you want to do and do it. Rely on your friends. If you don't have one good enough to REALLY confide in or help you get back out there in the world, vent to the bittersluts. You are not alone in your situation.

As far as that extra energy.....you can take care of that yourself too - disease free and no wet spot to sleep in!! You'll be less tense when you're cleaning the refrigerator!!

ellybelly
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posted 03-07-2001 04:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ellybelly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay, you are right. We know it, all of us, but here's the deal. Who actually fixes themselves up that well before allowing themselves to be loved?

One of the blessings of love is that we are loved EVEN THOUGH we are not perfect.

I sometimes think this self-improvement thing is just another flaming hoop we competent and perfectionist women set up ourselves to jump through again. I remember my therapist telling me I had to be easier on myself, be kinder in what I told myself about myself, give myself a break, and I sat there thinking, Shit, what the hell is wrong with me that I can't even be nice to myself...what an idiot I must me...okay, I'm going to be nice to me if it kills me...

I'm definitely not even remotely close to perfect -- and some on this forum can attest to that fact personally.

I have quirks, and insecurities, and areas where I'm weak or blind or silly or stupid. I also have strengths and beauties and areas where I am amazing wise and talented and kind and strong.

I know I can love myself up, Just. But it isn't the same as being kissed by someone, is it? I don't know that I need a relationship with someone, but I certainly want one with someone (some particular someone -- not some general someone). And I'm tired of feeling like if I'm a little neurotic, or a little injured, or a little or a lot anything that isn't one hundred percent spit-polished and worked out that I won't be able to have a relationship. Some of that really deep healing, I think, that we need to do can ONLY come from being loved by someone else.

Think about this -- one of the most powerful incentives for people to become religious is the invitation to be "loved by Jesus, despite our sins." The idea is that God loves us, all of us, no matter what we do. No matter how fat our thighs are or what a shitty thing we just said to the kids or how we really got married just to get out from under our parents' watchful eyes and now look at the mess we're in. Wow. We're human. We don't have to be the emotional Bionic Woman.

So okay, if that abstract love is redemptive (and for many, many people it is) how much more redemptive will REAL love be?

My point (and do I have one, as per usual) is this, ladies: Most of the time, the biggest, baddest bossiest jerk we have to contend with is our own selves, screaming and shouting at ourselves that we have to GET OUR SHIT TOGETHER...

I don't think we do. At least not all the way. Life is a process, not a goal.

And therefore, should we desire to spend a little time ON our backs, probably the quickest way to get there is to GET OFF our own backs, if you follow my rather inane drift...


[This message has been edited by ellybelly (edited 03-07-2001).]

Meow
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posted 03-07-2001 07:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Meow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ellybelly...you are a wise and insightful woman, I admire that! Your posts are always so well written and there's always something about them, some point you've made, that strikes me. It makes me wonder why I haven't thought of things that way before, and even if I don't end up agreeing with everything you've said, you always give me something to ponder. You're a great asset to all us Bittersluts, I look forward to more of your self aware and articulate posts!

Tragically Right
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posted 03-07-2001 09:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tragically Right     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you all for your words of support, wisdom, humor. I really needed to hear the things you said. Elly, I agree with Meow. You have a way.

I have dated a few of the wrong guys for the wrong reasons since the split and finally called it all off to work on me. I am finally, I think, getting on that road.

Thank you again for your support. It's very encouraging to know I am not alone.

Terapin
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posted 03-16-2001 11:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Terapin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ellybelly...thank you. Your words struck me because well:

Half the time I don't know what I'm doing in my relationship. If I'm upset about something or feeling insecure and I actually allow myself to share that with my boyfriend, to let it out and have him hold me while I talk about those flaws/insecuritites the second they are out of my mouth I wish I could snatch them back! I feel so GUILTY for being flawed. I think him so kind and wonderful for loving me despite my imperfection and I wish I could be perfect for him because he doesn't deserve a person like me.

I am being loved by someone else, I have that healing. And yet I can't stop whipping myself for not being more perfect. He does nothing to make me feel like I am not worthy of him. He holds me and listens and sooths and smiles as if I'm foolish for even thinking that I, the woman he loves, need to be insecure about something. Right now I think I am my biggest obstacle...and that is a vicious cycle of thinking!

Shayne
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posted 03-20-2001 11:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Shayne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Terapin, your post resonates strongly with me. Feeling guilty for being flawed, what more human response is there? I don't know anyone who is truly 100% always comfortable with their faults, and yet we all have them. We tend, I think, to seek validation from others to know that we're loved and accepted despite what's wrong with us, and there's nothing wrong with that, but it's really important to guard against this thing that says "as long as he/she/whoever loves/accepts me despite my flaws... THEN I am a worthwhile person." That's a trap, because if suddenly that person's feelings change in even the smallest degree, it throws your entire sense of balance about yourself as a person out of whack. The key is to be as comfortable with YOURSELF as possible. You can share your life with others and even need the benefits you reap from that sharing... but in the final analysis, all you've got is you.

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